THE REAL SELF | PART 10 OF 14 | IWGR I | RAMA राम

" Well , then , if this statement is true according to you , it must be wrong according to us , because , as you were present and you are a human being , the statement that there was not a single human being present is not literally true . You were present there . In order that this statement may be true according to you , it must be false according to us , because in order that there might be nobody , there must be somebody , must be some body , must be at least yourself , present at the time . "

So when you wake up after enjoying the deep sleep state and make this remark ,

" I did not see anything in the dream " ;

well , we may say that you must have been present ; there was no parent , no spouse , no house , no river , no family present in that state , but you must have been present ; the very evidence that you give , the very witness that you bear proves that you did not sleep , that you did not go to sleep , for had you been asleep , who would have told us about the nothingness of that ? You are something beyond the intellect ; the intellect was asleep , the brain was at rest in a way , but you were not asleep .

If you had been asleep , who would have made the blood run through the blood-vessels , who would have continued the process of digestion in the stomach ? Who would have continued the process of the growth of your body , if you had really fallen into the deep sleep state ? So you are something which is never asleep . The intellect sleeps , but not you .

" I am something beyond the intellect , mind and body . "

Now the youth said ,

" Swami , I have understood it so far , and have come to know that I am a power Divine , that I am the Infinite power which never sleeps , never changes . In my youth , the body is different , in my childhood the mind was not the same as I have now , the body was not the same as I have now . In my childhood , my intellect , brain , body and mind were entirely different from what they are now . "

Doctors tell us that after seven years , the whole system undergoes a thorough change ; every moment the body is changing , and every second the mind is changing , and the mental thoughts , the mental ideas which you entertained in your childhood , where are they now ? In the days of childhood you looked upon the Sun as a beautiful cake which was eaten by the angels , the Moon was a beautiful piece of silver ; the stars were as big as diamonds . Where are these ideas gone ? The mind of yours , the intellect of yours has undergone a thorough , a whole-sale change . But you still say ,

" When I was a child , when I was a youth , when I shall grow up to the age of seventy . "